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12/15/07 12:59 AM |
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We were waiting for you to bring it up.Good point. We can conclude that there are three ingredients to justification. God: The justifier Faith: the means to justification Blood: the source of justification God has ordained that he will justify anyone that places his faith in the blood of Christ. Interesting enough, unconditional election has nothing to do with it. |
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12/14/07 11:37 PM |
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I see you still refuse to answer any of my questions although I always answer yours. It seems that you preffer to stay in the shadows of uncertaintyDiscerning Believer wrote: No man can come to Christ except the Father draws him by His power. I see you have to throw the humanistic rationalization in there as well.Discerning Believer wrote: There is only one who can justify and that is God. If he conditions it upon faith, it is still God who justifies. Good. So you agree with me. Does it hurt you that bad to say, Yamil you are right.Go ahead, say it. It's very theraputic once you try it. Discerning Believer wrote: You can't honestly clain the God justifies as well as our faith justifies. You have a bad habit of making an issue out of a non issue. The question is not, "Who does the justifying?" Anyone here in his right mind will say God, silly.Pay attention to the question: "Is justification BY faith?" Now do you want to get back on point? Discerning Believer wrote: I'm done. You mean done with your itchy-twitchy dance? Or done with me as usual because the overwhelming evidence has left you speechless? |
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12/14/07 10:57 PM |
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Come on, DB. I answer your questions. I see no reason why you refuse to answer mine.Noone here is denying that salvation is a gift. Like any gift, it can be received or rejected. Have you ever received a gift? Do you not have to receive it? Now how is it that when it comes to salvation you have such a hard time accepting such a simple concept? The Bible makes it clear that it is faith that justifies NOT unconditional election. You can't explain away the simple verses that state otherwise: Romans 3:28 wrote: Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith Romans 3:30 wrote: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Romans 5:1 wrote: Therefore being justified by faith Galatians 3:11 wrote: But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Galatians 3:24 wrote: Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Now how many times does God has to say "justified by faith" before you believe it? |
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12/14/07 10:23 PM |
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Longing for Revival,You are right. Sorry DB, I should try to be more tactful. _______________________________________ DB, so I guess your answer is no and to the survey question. So if it is not faith that justifies, would you say that it is unconditional election that justifies? And how do you explain so many verses that specifically state that faith is what justifies and an individual. Your anology is a good one. Unfortunately it betrays your position. One cannot simply become a Nevadan by walking up to a precinct. And one is certainly not unconditionally elected to become a Nevadan. How does then one become a Nevadan? Well, he becomes a Nevadan, by meeting the CONDITIONS set forth. God has ordained the condition of faith, for it is he who wrote that one is justified by faith. God justifies a person the same way any judge justifies anyone: when they meet the conditions. It just happens to be that God's condition is faith. There are plenty of Scriptures that state that. The dehvastating truth is that there is nothing that states that unconditional election is a prerequisite to justification. |
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12/14/07 9:25 PM |
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DB please think of what you have just said. Do you really think that is the best educated comment concerning the grammar of that verse.Here, allow me to help you out... No! Let that soak in a little bit. Now please humbly receive my correction. What you have is a passive voice transitive verb. Only action verbs can be transitive. The verb is not "being". "Being" is a helping verb. The verb is "justified." "To be" verbs are used in conjunction with action verbs to make it passive. You have come a long way from someone who use to care about what Scripture state to having a total disregard towards it. And to demonstrate how depraved your rationalization is, allow me to make another comment: Even if your gross grammar were correct, it still does nothing to prove the fact that the scripture state that one is justified by faith not by election. You propose that one cannot be justified by faith because admitting so would make one the author of salvation. |
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12/14/07 6:51 PM |
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Longing for revival wrote: Weapon, excellent idea! I am going to do the same. May God grant us His boundless grace and endeserved mercy as we seek Him. I hope others will do the same. One other suggestion; let's lay aside our animosity, anger, pride, and contentious spirits for the week also, and let's see what God can do! Hmm. You mean no more fighting at SA? |
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12/14/07 6:02 PM |
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Longing for revival wrote: 22 hours of bantering and bickering and not one reply to the need for revival! The Calvinist needs revival. |
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12/14/07 5:28 PM |
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So I guess you are digressing from your ridiculous statement that noone seeks after God.To answer your question, one is declared righteous based on Jesus's righteous. (So I guess, Murray's ad hominem's have been proven wrong again) Now I wonder if you are as quick to answer my question. According to the pole question (faith alone) one is either justified by faith or justified by election. Which one do you fit in? Now do not leave and come back to post after you feel that everyone has forgotten about the question. You tend to have a habit of doing that when you refuse to face the dehvastating truth. |
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12/12/07 6:39 PM |
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R. K. Borill wrote: Are not both used by the Lord? The Lord uses the words, but use does not constitute a synonym.If you cannot tell the difference between CANNOT and WILL NOT, then there is nothing much I can do for you other than buy you a dictionary for Christmas and hope that that would enlighten you a little bit. R. K. Borill wrote: Christ must break the power of sin before they are willing to come to him. Otherwise, they are UNWILLING and THEY CANNOT. Well, looking at your life, he must've not done a very good job since you still sin. Again you betray your own position.DB wrote: They claim that bondage really does not mean bondage and that they are not so bound up that they can't free themselves from it. Actually, we just believe what the Bible states. And since you have yet to show us a simple declarative statement from the Bible that STATES otherwise, we will continue to believe the Bible over your humanistic rationalizations.My first graders understand that CAN NOT is not synonymous to WILL NOT. Do you? |
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12/11/07 11:43 PM |
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R. K. Borill wrote: It always comes back down to ad homenim arguments with you Yamil. Firstly, I am not sure how me asking you to cut it out with the straw man constitutes as an ad hominem.Secondly, it's also about the points I made that you completely ignored and are only crying foul play after quickly discovering that your position is scripturally bankrupt. Besides, unless you have repented of it, it seems that you enjoy dishing out ad hominems. You even bragged about it stating that Jesus did it, and so should you. R. K. Borill wrote: t is not a volition that does not work. It is a volition that refuses and will not believe the truth. You openly confess to believing the truth, so I guess that blows your theory right out of the water.R. K. Borill wrote: It is not the Calvinist that says this, it is the Word of God. Cut it out with the dance. We both agree that mankind apart from the grace of God WILL NOT seek after God. This is quite different than saying that he CAN NOT seek after God.That, my friend, the Word of God does not state. |
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